Tta Orchestra

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Jorrig created the tournament on 2020-08-30

Jorrig

The tournament has started!
It was impossible to launch two games per group and still launch a game for each player, since for each combination two players appeared in both (and one would be without a game). So I decided to launch three games per group, and that should start two games for all of us. I'll wait with the other two batches for at least two weeks and then decide according to progress being made. Feedback welcome, of course.
Good luck and enjoy the games!

Jorrig

I just noticed some players are still without a game in the first phase. Each group has one player like that. I am sorry for that, this is the algorithm behind creating sessions and splitting into batches. I would still prefer to wait with the launch of the other games in order not to provoke unnecessary timeouts. Let me know if you think otherwise. There is probably no better way to discuss this except this discussion.

Claudacia

Hi, thanks for creating this tournament. It’s my first one, and don’t really know how it works, but since I don’t see any invitations to join a game, does this mean I’m the unlucky one to not have any game in the first week?

Jorrig

Claudacia Welcome, Claudacia! You are correct, you are unfortunately the one without games in your group. Sorry for that, I'll check better in the next stages and make sure this won't happen again.
You can see all your games when you switch to the "Games" tab of your group. You will see the other games and the seeding there already. The game will be in status "prepared". As soon as the first games finish I will release the next ones manually. By experience, a Fast Async game will take about two weeks.
You don't have to do anything else, the game will be set up automatically for you (i.e., as soon as I hit the button) and you will get the usual game notification when it is your turn.

Jorrig

First group finished two games, so I started the next two in order to give the waiting players some games to play. I'll check this regularly and check the same in all other groups.
Next season I'll probably split in two batches. Some players might have three parallel games then, but the league will also finish faster.

Jorrig

I've started two games of the remaining four for each group now, although not all have finished their first three games. All of those are close to completion, and the first moves are usually easier, so I hope this is fine for everybody and y'all have some games on Sunday. I might release the remaining two of all groups by next weekend then. Please let me know if this is too fast for any of you.

Glamdring

Sorry for timing out in my first game. I don't even know how or when that happened! I only saw it now looking at the results so have no idea which Age I timed out or on what day 🙁 I never saw any of my games so low on time when logging in every day so I must have just messed up somehow and not played my turn or forgotten to click End Turn before logging out.

Jorrig

Glamdring Sorry for you that you missed the game! I just noticed the timeout, it looked as if you just hadn't played your turn.
I am not sure how to handle repetitive timeouts. I don't want to be too hard on this, but if someone just doesn't play anymore, I'll probably replace him/her.

donwalsh1

How will ties in standings be handled?

Jorrig

donwalsh1 I haven't thought about that yet. Let's say we take direct comparison. Each player play each opponent twice, so we add points of each player in those games and break the tie like this.

Jorrig

I'll be on holidays next week. Unfortunately, Stage 1 will probably finish then. Please be patient, I'll move on to Stage 2 as soon as I have a stable internet connection.

Claudacia

Sorry for timing out, fast async is not always compatible when I’m away from home for work (no internet). Anyway, ready for the next round 🙂

Jorrig

I have started the next round now. I hope I didn't make any mistake in the seeding.
I have decided to take all players from last stage to the next one. In the future I'll replace those with a negative overall score (for timeouts). This is not too harsh, I think, it shouldn't be too serious, either. We're all here for fun.
I have tried this time to start four games each group such that every player plays two games and two players each game have three. Unfortunately, I noticed that the seeding algorithm isn't always consistent, so this didn't work out for the first league, for example. This is all manual work, so bear with me if it didn't work 100%. Any suggestions always welcome, of course.
So now, have fun and play!

Firedart

Thanks for your efforts Jorrig, really looking forward to the tournament.

Jorrig

Thanks, you're welcome!
Sorry for the early timeouts. I have tried to contact the affected players, but there is no way to do this if they don't open their app. As far as I know there is also no additional information that a tournament has started. I'd really appreciate that feature to allow for a bit more of interaction.

Jorrig

I decided to launch the second wave today on Sunday. Most of the first wave are finishing or at least in good progress. The first moves of the new games should be easy, anyway. In about three weeks, this stage could be finished.
We already had a couple of timeouts. I repeat: Whoever ends up with a negative score will be ejected from the tournament. I'll promote from lower leagues accordingly and invite new players to the lowest division.

Cleveman

One Note. My game crashed and I couldnt play unto Ende. Was in good Position...

Cleveman

Could you restart this game?

Jorrig

Cleveman Unfortunately, no. I can't do this as a normal tournament admin. I contacted support, though, about that game. If they suggest such a solution (reset and restart the game), I'd go for it. I'll keep you posted.

Jorrig

Cleveman Support has replied and offered a restart as an option. I'll let them figure out how to do it and hope that you will be able to restart that game. All progress of the previous one would be lost, though. They cannot recover any mid-game status, apparently.
In case this doesn't work, we'll probably just ignore that game and score it neutrally for all players (like 2.5 for each player). I hope I don't have to do that.