wolvs created the tournament on 2023-01-12
Mercurial Ladder
Mercurial Ladder is a very cool idea how to give the experience from Transcontinental Ladder to more players.
So smart, I'm joining!
When will the tournament start?
Hi, I love the system, which brings the TCL tournament kind of to more players and allows faster advancing in the ladder thanks to incorporating Glicko. I see however a significant flaw in the rules... If a weaker player would want to climb to the top of the ladder, the best strategy would be to start with a low Glicko account, earn a lot of easy wins and increase his glicko rating once he gets a lot of these easy wins. This way one could get a significant lead by playing easy low rank games and could stay on the top even after loosing several games on the top. This could be frustrating for other players. I think that the challenge here is how to allow players advance faster in the ladder while making this tournament something else than just another Glicko ladder. I would suggest to only consider last 10 games when determining the points. This way it would be a bit more fair although late joiners would still have some advantage. Since I would expect one round to take a month (there will be some slow players), the ladder would show one's one year journey (perhaps it could be even 12 games if we think that one round is one month).
Palino thanks for your interest and thoughts! I understand you concern but what I think: 1) we are playing to have fun, trying to hack the format looks a bit strange, I hope we'll not have such a cases. 2) it's not so easy, cause multi-acc is forbidden in rating tournaments. 3) it worths a bit, ML is supplementary tournament with just around 10 games per year. But I definitely agree that here might be some other flaws. If so, the rules would be corrected after first several seasons.
I think you misunderstood me a bit. I didn't say that somebody would want to hack the tournament and certainly I didn't mention multiaccounts. What I described can (and will) happen to all people who have no glicko assigned - they will simply play in the lowest group and unless their (unknown at the start) rating would be below 1000, they would play against much weaker opponents, from who they get points for free. It is of course for fun, but a lot of people are competitive and want to try to get as high as they can and what I am saying is that the system may be frustrating for competitive players. Competitivness and fun are not mutually exclusive and there is a lot of players who seek both. It is your tournament, so your rules and you don't need to listen to me, I am just trying to help
Palino oh, now is clear. First of all, this tournament is for all community, not just for me. With Mercurial Ladder and Nations League I aspire to find competitive and agile formats, so I really appreciate for your feedback. As of now what i think: 1) the highest tiers (where competitiveness is more likely is a king) should be affected less, distance is too long even with 5 easy wins in a row; 2) I couldn't see good solutions now - as you mentioned above - it's a risk to get just another Glicko ladder.
3) As an option it could be to use time decay for result points (so latest results will weight more).
So let's begin to play and to keep watch over this potential issue.
Sorry to be a pain but I don’t really understand how the s.sheet works.
I have played 2 games, lost then won.
it now shows me as having 5 rank pts (but playing in tier 6).
It’s just a game but I’d like to understand how it works pls?
Thyrus it’s ok! 5 is your actual rank. But when I seed a season I should have the number of players which is divided by 3 for each tier. From all players with 5 rank, you have one the two best tie-breakers (result points and then Glicko rating), so for this particular season you are playing one tier up then your actual rank is.
Thanks for the quick reply and apologies for my slow reply!
If I have won one and lost one shouldn't I be back to rank 7 then?
Hi wolvs,
I will probably not be able to attend season 5.
If you could be so kind to leave me out of the season to rejoin in season 6 I would appreciate.
Thanks and regards
It's been months since the glicko ratings have been updated. It's a great format, but do we know when the next update is going to be?
Barnstormer Pajada updates rating quarterly. Last update was this month, so the next one should be on September
hi, after the update i can't play on my computer (steam)